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What is your nightmare PVP team?

  • I am playing PVP actively this season and this far i can´t complain. But yet, there`s that awkward moment when you see those characters that make you say "hell nooo!!" 

    I would like to know if you have a nightmare opposing team and why. Mine, by far is that dreaded combination of Omega sentinel and Rescue. Not that they are unbeatable, because they can be won, but those fights last for ages since my team is blaster based and Rescue packs at least 3 moves per turn, plus protection and counters for blasters and extra turns on blasters. Omega Sentinel has 2 turns and Scrappers attack twice to infiltrators (i quit using infiltrators due this). Plus, rescue still gets extra turns while exhausted. 

    Gearwise, I clench my teeth to the Scroll of angolob. I wish I started to play earlier so I could get one of those too, specially in battles vs the Iron Pepsi. The hotshot and its high-stun ratio and chance to stun the whole team makes my heart skip a beat everytime it`s fired. And... that custom bolt action 4 bore is still lurking somewhere... i can sense it! Still never met her though.

    So what`s your situation? Fell free to tell us, share experiences or whine if you want. What are the characters and/or gear that make your eyes open wide and say DAAAAAMN!!!??

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    • Cyclops. His refactor means that all three opponents usually have a counter attack up... meaning that it would be fatal to use Iron Patriot's 21 Gun Salute! :(

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    • I can't say any particularly "team" per se, because there are so many combos out there, and players seem to be tinkering with all kinds of things. That said, here are the heroes that make me cringe and think to myself, "Here comes a loss" before I evven start playing:

      • Rescue
      • Phoenix

      And if these guys show up, my butt puckers up, but it depends on who they're paired with. And if they're paired with each other, or one of the two above? Forget it!!

      • Heroic Age Hawkeye
      • Quicksilver
      • Captain Britain
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    • True, Hawkeye once shot about 6 times in one turn with his rapid fire! I target him first when I meet him. Captain britain was a pain in the butt when I was leveling up in the 30/70 mark. 

      By phoenix you mean the White Crown version? those infinite resurrections are too much sometimes.

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    • Hawkeye alt, Rescue and THOSE STUPIDLY UNBALANCED TIN MEN!!! Ugh...I hate the Iron Pepsi + Mk 42 combo. It's so annoying with their shields, their radiation and the stealthy attacks of Mk42. The most annoying thing, is that I don't have access to them just because of time issues.

      On the other hand, I like the amount of Human Torches on PVP. They really make my beloved Punisher shine: Just throw a proxy bomb at them and since all their moves are offensive but not stealthy, it's a guaranteed death. Then, with the extra turn, counter whoever HT is paired with. There, one less even though he manages to 1 hit my Captain Britain if he attacks first :(

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    • I have to say, that radioactive 21 gun is a real danger. Specially if it fires first.

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    • @CarBastard & Rabidsquirrel1: While I agree that when the Salute Gun attack comes first can be catastrophic for your team, there are also ways of reducing/countering it:

      • Magnetize Iron Patriot with Magneto when Iron Patriot comes first or if he comes later and you don't have Magneto have Rescue magnetize him. It'll prevent him from critting unnecessarily and helps a bunch.
      • Use heroes in combat who are immune to radiation like any Asguardian (Thor, Valkyrie or Sif), Spider-Woman (I know but she's still immune to radiation) and Wonder Man.
      • If you place the Shepard's Staff in your Agent's moveslot the damage for Radiation Exposure will be significantly reduced along with other debuffs.

      @Carbastard: As for shield penetration:

      • Ignore Defense Heroes & Gear (Black Knight, Black Panther, regular War Machine, Deadpool
      • Exploit and Bypasses Shield Heroes (Juggernaut, Omega Sentinel)
      • Psychic or Psychic Energy Attacks (Emma, Phoenix, Psylocke)

      As for temporarily causing stealthy attacks to be regular:

      • Use heroes who apply Hobbled like Wonder Man and Elektra.

      I think I have said some stuff you guys already knew but hopefully this will help you a bit!

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      I can't say any particularly "team" per se, because there are so many combos out there, and players seem to be tinkering with all kinds of things. That said, here are the heroes that make me cringe and think to myself, "Here comes a loss" before I evven start playing:
      • Rescue
      • Phoenix

      And if these guys show up, my butt puckers up, but it depends on who they're paired with. And if they're paired with each other, or one of the two above? Forget it!!

      • Heroic Age Hawkeye
      • Quicksilver
      • Captain Britain

      For me,I think "Here comes a loss" when I encounter a Iron Patriot,Rescue,WWII Captain America teamed up with Wolverine,Phoenix,Magneto, or any combination of these three:

      Beast. Wolverine. Black Panther.

      And if White Crown Pheonix, or Mk 42 + Iron Patriot;then FORGET IT!

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    • @Dialgatron: all info, known or not is welcome here, thanks for participating in the discussion :)

      Unluckily for me, some of the major powerhouses in the game like magneto or rescue (not offensive powerhouse but hell of debuffer, annoyer and battle stretcher) came out and went away while my level wasn´t good enough to complete specops or pvp at the time so I don´t have any of those. Fortunately enough, Daimon is proving an essential player since has many advantages like the skittering darkness.

      I think each opposing team depends on one´s lineup (I have heard of scrapper based teams facing hordes of bruisers). I think i will change my blaster based team to infiltrators once i step into diamond, there are more tacticians there.

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    • @Rabidsquirrel1: It is good to hear that Daimon is working out fine for you in your meta :). I have faced hordes of Tacticians, Blasters and Infiltrators but I have yet to face an all Bruiser team. Don't worry bout the expired LE heroes and alts. Even at a costly price, they are bound to return someday by popular demand.

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    • Nobody defensive worries me in the least.  The ones that I hate to see are the ones who can kill my entire team before I get a turn: Modern Thor and Iron Pepsi.  Honorable mention to Havok because he can KO any one enemy at any time.

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    • @Rabidsquirrel1: I'm also happy that Daimon favors you. If he takes early turns, he will inflict Mind Control and use L2 the next turn( Skittering Darkness could be a life-saver ). and spamming L1 ( or L6 if you want to ) to heal. My nightmare PVP team would be Wonder Man( debuffs don't work ) & Satana ( stepping Disc will just help her), but I think no one would use this pair because Satana disrupt WM's rising up.

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    • @Bashingthegreat: Indeed, skittering darkness has saved me more than once and Amorous congress could be great, but its effectiveness is somewhat inconsistent. Le petit mort is a great help against rescue since it blocks her healing on reconstruct matrix.

      I haven´t met Wonder Man yet, maybe because it would be easy against 2 blasters, so the AI bombards me with rescues, P5 Cyclops and tactician agents :( 

      I had to switch from using Dr Strange to using Angel. I think The battles are now decided depending on how many attacks you can make in one turn. One of the reasons I pale to the Omega sentinel/Rescue combo. Can easily reach 8 moves the two combined.

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    • my nightmare is... other team to get all first moves and iron pepsi and modern Thor. to be in that team..... it happend to me once it was ... well...... akward.....

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    • Kinda suprised no one has mentioned Shadow Cat Kitty Pride, Mockingbird or P5 Emma Frost. KP can kill you with one counter, Mockingbird can litterly wipe out your whole team in one turn if you have infiltraters or blasters and EF is crazy hard to kill with her Diamond body passive and her cosmic power healing ability. I hate to see any of these ladies coming!

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    • This is my first real pvp season, the last one I only played three battles. I'm low level(47), so I have, thankfully I suppose, never seen rescue and Omega Sentinel in PvP- I however have Omega Sentinel on 6 and run her with HA Hawkeye on 10. They're my attack team and my AFK team.

      Most of the time I resign to losing when i see cyclops which unfortunately is a common occurence on my level his Evasive maneuveres and Mega Optic blast annoy me to no end. Brown and Tan Wolverine also makes me cringe. I usually try to get him out of the way first. If I'm lucky my Hawkeye will do the job.

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    • My worst nightmare is the whole opponent team comes first...barely no matter what on other side...

      But a little troubleshooting for me are still Phönix...specialy White Crown...Magik...and Emma..all who bypass Astralform

      I love to see Tacticans on other side...and Infiltrators...if i come first ^^

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    • RESCUE AND ANGEL

      It took me like 15-20minutes to win that damn battle.

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    • Tessarlight wrote:
      RESCUE AND ANGEL

      It took me like 15-20minutes to win that damn battle.

      If I had Rescue I would make my AFK team Rescue and Angel just because so many people would just give up and refresh

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    • The thing about PVP is probabilities... I've faced any combination you could think of, and manage to win or lose just because I, myself, screw it up... but there's a point that have no discussion, and is the whole enemy team attacking first, if you manage to survive the attack, you can be pretty downhearted having your team's blood on 30%... but as for me, the worst combination to face is Rescue /Magneto , the magnetized debuff can be really annoying, plus the crit that magneto have for sure with that... annoying... but then again, is about probabilities, and the team you play, when I use NC he can easily swipe those two, but against OS or scrapper Quicksilver , he's not that great, especially combining her plasma thingy and his protect... bad combo... two things to point out, 1) I'm on level 300, so the probabilities os having enemies with (almost) every hero is high, hence, you can face LE heroes like Mockingbird , OS, or even Contrictor (yeah, I know, but he turned out to be quite annoying)... 2) My team is based on Bruisers because there are not that many Blasters up here, most common being WC Phoenix and sometimes Modern Thor and Iron Pepsi, I've faced like 2 times Iron Man, but not that common, and I try to mix it with a blaster (usually Thor or Phoenix) becuse I face a lot of bruisers (especially Juggy )...

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    • @greywolfwhite: Man that Summon thunder has gotten me so many times.

      @Coleman1969: While Kitty pride is dangerous on phased and countering, there are ways around her like dodging gadgets. She used to annoy me but thanks to Daimon she is no longer a threat, atl least for me. Mockingbird was indeen a pain in the butt but again, Hellstrom´s skittering Darkness and amorous congress play a major role on evading her blows, and she can be quickly dealt with an agent wih a huge damage weapon. (add Sudden support here and OHKO her) Emma Frost does take some effort but not by her being though to attack IMO, but if ehe AI screws you with her mental anguish an cannot attack. 

      I am realizing that the "nightmare" hero team has always a slightly imba attack on one or more of the members: Summon thunder for thor, 21 gun for Iron Pepsi, phoenix fire on WCP that affect YOUR whole team, and/or one that boosts THEIR whole team: Cyke and combat expertise, Storm and shroud, Rescue and all her goddam stupid shields and healing (Daimon to the rescue with la petit mort! No pun intended) so they get the upperhand on nightmare status than Kitty or Mockingbird. 

      Still... not that I wish to see them frecuently ;)

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    • NINJAelectricsword wrote:
      Tessarlight wrote:
      RESCUE AND ANGELIt took me like 15-20minutes to win that damn battle.
      If I had Rescue I would make my AFK team Rescue and Angel just because so many people would just give up and refresh

      Giving up and refreshing is an automatic loss. Better to stick it out on the off hand chance you'll win.

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    • @blackdevil: Welcome to pvp then! At your level I had a lot of trouble versus Scarlet witch and Human torch. Dr Strange turn abuseness annoyed me also. Great hing you have HA Hawkeye because he can fire again and again on pinpoint and a stun move. 

      @Drygar: Yup, been on the reciebing end of a team that faced Iron Pepsi and modern thor. Survived the 21 gun and summon thunder that came first. and when i was going to let thor have it... OPPOSING AGENT WITH HOARFROST AND THAT STUPID SACRIFICE! 

      My whole team hit him first turn and the radiation killed all of us next.

      Hoarfrost mace. Add that to my list of nightmare gear.

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    • @Tessarlight: Actually if I has rescue that would me my defensive team also :) 

      Currently it is Angel and blue quicksilver.

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    • Tessarlight wrote:

      Giving up and refreshing is an automatic loss. Better to stick it out on the off hand chance you'll win.

      yeah but some people might give up. I normally don't give up on fights, I think the last time I gave up on a fight was when I came up against Rescue and Wolfie and they wouldn't die and there was like less than 15 minutes left in the season and the fight was going way too long and I thought that I might be able to quickly win enough other fights to overwrite my suicide loss. Then everyone got Adamantium anyway. :P

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    • Hahaha ouch.

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    • Any team with either Rescue or Phoenix is so annoying, the former with her panacea responce and the latter with her death and rebirth just makes the battle go on and on. I use Emma so Mental Anguish is my go to and Rescue just ruins that, at least I have a chance with MB with her first move, I use that as a counter measure to Rescue's PR withup to 4 debuffs. Also gives my Agent a chance to generalize either Rescue (since my Agent is a blaster) or a very annoying infiltrator char.

      Face your nightmare team enough times you find a way to beat them. Takes a hell long of a time though.

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    • Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:
      @blackdevil: Welcome to pvp then! At your level I had a lot of trouble versus Scarlet witch and Human torch. Dr Strange turn abuseness annoyed me also. Great hing you have HA Hawkeye because he can fire again and again on pinpoint and a stun move. 


      Thanks!

      Sometimes luck is just not on my side. I fielded my Tac HA Hawkeye versus a Blaster Annihilus HT. Did Pinpoint and Sure Shot. Didn't get rapid fire. Tactical Maneuvers and another Sure Shot, didn't get it again.

      Enemy also has HA Hawkeye, does pinpoint on my Hawkeye. He gets 4 Rapidfires. That just didn't seem fair at all. :(

      Also, I tried Ms Marvel and Hawkeye. Didn't work at all. OS is beast most of the times. Worth every gold I invested.

      Thinking of using Satana or Widow against Strange, possible War Machines, Hawkeyes and the ocassional Mk.42 tac. Also thinking about Bruiser Modern Armor Sif against the scrappers, but I'm hesitant because of the loads of HTs.

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    • Tessarlight wrote:
      NINJAelectricsword wrote:
      Tessarlight wrote:
      RESCUE AND ANGELIt took me like 15-20minutes to win that damn battle.
      If I had Rescue I would make my AFK team Rescue and Angel just because so many people would just give up and refresh
      Giving up and refreshing is an automatic loss. Better to stick it out on the off hand chance you'll win.

      Refreshing is not always a loss,sometimes I refresh and my rating doesn't get a change!

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    • NINJAelectricsword wrote:
      Tessarlight wrote:

      Giving up and refreshing is an automatic loss. Better to stick it out on the off hand chance you'll win.

      yeah but some people might give up. I normally don't give up on fights, I think the last time I gave up on a fight was when I came up against Rescue and Wolfie and they wouldn't die and there was like less than 15 minutes left in the season and the fight was going way too long and I thought that I might be able to quickly win enough other fights to overwrite my suicide loss. Then everyone got Adamantium anyway. :P

      My longest fight was Torchie vs. Torchie; where both of them took little damage (high Evasion) and instantly got healed. It literally took forever!

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    • most hated battle that is annoying agent with four scrolls rescue and cap a ww11

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    • There is no real combo I fear, just certain character. Resuce is always annoying, always has been and always will be. Iron Patriot's and his 21 gun salute is a killer, especially the multiple stacks of radiation exposure. I thought Angel was going to be annoying as hell but the A.I can't use him to save it's life(ArchAngel costume is a different story though). I almost always stick it out unless I know for a fact I can't win, like when I have to fight someone who is clearly 4 to 5 times my power

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    • Dialgatron wrote:
      @CarBastard & Rabidsquirrel1: While I agree that when the Salute Gun attack comes first can be catastrophic for your team, there are also ways of reducing/countering it:
      • Magnetize Iron Patriot with Magneto when Iron Patriot comes first or if he comes later and you don't have Magneto have Rescue magnetize him. It'll prevent him from critting unnecessarily and helps a bunch.
      • Use heroes in combat who are immune to radiation like any Asguardian (Thor, Valkyrie or Sif), Spider-Woman (I know but she's still immune to radiation) and Wonder Man.
      • If you place the Shepard's Staff in your Agent's moveslot the damage for Radiation Exposure will be significantly reduced along with other debuffs.

      @Carbastard: As for shield penetration:

      • Ignore Defense Heroes & Gear (Black Knight, Black Panther, regular War Machine, Deadpool
      • Exploit and Bypasses Shield Heroes (Juggernaut, Omega Sentinel)
      • Psychic or Psychic Energy Attacks (Emma, Phoenix, Psylocke)

      As for temporarily causing stealthy attacks to be regular:

      • Use heroes who apply Hobbled like Wonder Man and Elektra.

      I think I have said some stuff you guys already knew but hopefully this will help you a bit!

      Thanks for the response.

      Thing is that, sadly, I don't have most of the stuff you suggested because I'm a very recent player (began playing a year or so ago but dropped it because it was soooo glitchy, just resumed playing like a month or so ago). Still, I'm slowly overcoming my beef with Iron Pepsi: Shell shock him and snipe him.

      The only chars that really give me trouble are the ones who protect and most infiltrators because I'm running a tact agent (to counter all those red Aegis bozos...) and my #1 agent strategy is just spam the restored Lewis gun to give AOE shell shock. I win most of my offensive fights if two conditions are met: 1. The turn order doesn't screw me and 2. I don't get assigned an opponent with a much bigger and expensive armory lined in gold.

      In other topic: Does anyone have any comments on The Punisher's AI? I have him teamed with normal-cust Wolvie and surprisingly woke up today being Diamond when I previously was silver. Nice surprise though I don't think it'll last. Any suggestions for defense?

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    • @CarBastard: Hey, i´m glad to hear about your diamond! Im trying to hold onto it also, like im in a gold-diamond-gold-diamond situation. 

      Versus an oponent of my level and pvp bonus ninety-somethingK on both offense and defense I usually win, but the game pits me against opponens 130k or so sometimes and though we have a hell of a fight, ussualy in those cases I lose. I changed my defensive team to blue quicksilver and alt. Nightcrawler with infiltrator agent so no tactician will take advantages on my blasters. Those two are still lvl9 so I am training them as fast as I can.

      On Defense, try a debuffing team with high defense. ans if you have a character that has multiple rounds per turn, try that. Good luck!

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    • SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:
      most hated battle that is annoying agent with four scrolls rescue and cap a ww11


      Wow, 4 scrolls?

      I´d SO refresh a battle with that opponent :S

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    • I'm not a big fan of PVP, but a nigthmare team would be those with WC Phoenix and 2 tanks, cuz usually Phoenix use her ability and there it is! 3 tanks in a team.. Those are nasty even if you figured out which to aim to hit one of them cuz later come the Soulfire after 1 dead and every effort is meaningless

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    • @Rabidsquirrel: Using your wordage, I'm in a "diamond-vibranium-diamond-vibranium" situation. Can't seem to make Vib stick, lolz.

      @CarBastard: Same problem here. If I don't get screwed on turns or a ridiculous armory, I usually win. Now, if someone has a lower armory and still kicks my ass, well... let's just say those are the teams I go over very carefully in my notes so that I can either a) replicate, or b) strategize a way to snuff 'em out. ;)

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    • I've literally got pages and pages of notes on PVP. I'm planning on uploading them to the wiki. I have a question: What I want to do is put everything in a table/spreadsheet, and I want to put the classes of the opponents - for example, a Blaster - into the table, and be able to calculate totals at the bottom for each class.

      Any suggestions/links?

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    • Mostly

      • Iron Patriot
      • Rescue
      • Omega Sentinel
      • Phoenix Five Cyclops
      • Heroic Age Hawkeye
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    • Ironpikachu wrote:
      Tessarlight wrote:
      NINJAelectricsword wrote:
      Tessarlight wrote:
      RESCUE AND ANGELIt took me like 15-20minutes to win that damn battle.
      If I had Rescue I would make my AFK team Rescue and Angel just because so many people would just give up and refresh
      Giving up and refreshing is an automatic loss. Better to stick it out on the off hand chance you'll win.
      Refreshing is not always a loss,sometimes I refresh and my rating doesn't get a change!

      Take a a few minutes later in your Battle Report...then us see it's a loss and the Rating has chanced...i just guess that too in my second Season as i refresh some fights...but u loss...

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    • Ironpikachu wrote:

      Refreshing is not always a loss,sometimes I refresh and my rating doesn't get a change!

      actually I used to think that too but then someone told me to wait a minute and I did and then it showed that I had lost. It was really awkward cause I had refreshed a lot of fights...

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    • My Nightmare teams involve either Shadow Cat Kitty Pride, and/or brown wolverine and or/swashbuckler nightcrawler.

      Nightcrawler since I use a tactician angent he can counter pretty hard and my attempts to stun him could mean a free twak in the face, especially if optic cammo doesn't kick. 

      Kitty since she is essentially invincible for 2 rounds (she always uses lockhead first) and my only means to damage her is to use fault eater. Esentially criples my havok's/CB's AoE attack. Also once again high chance to i-hit me if she is ISO'd right.


      Luckily my team is pretty well equipped to deal with IP and Rescue, with chances to stun and exhaust them they rarely get a good hit in, and by SoA negates them if they pull of their typical first round BS, although I feel I've been lucky with IP not 1-shotting my team (literally had 1-hp left on my agent and he survived the whole fight somehow).

      The popularity of shield breakers/protect exploiters has also made me just abandone the use of protect, as it simply makes my protector die quicker.

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    • Rescue/Phoenix

      I'm doing so bad in PvP this season, I'm thinking of cheaping out and using them myself. My lack of playing is killing me since I really wanted to run Satana w/ Son set to be the anti-Rescue, but she's only lv. 7

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    • Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:
      SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:
      most hated battle that is annoying agent with four scrolls rescue and cap a ww11

      Wow, 4 scrolls?

      I´d SO refresh a battle with that opponent :S

      wat do u think i did but i lost like 24 rating

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    • Edwiniseman wrote:
      Rescue/Phoenix

      I'm doing so bad in PvP this season, I'm thinking of cheaping out and using them myself. My lack of playing is killing me since I really wanted to run Satana w/ Son set to be the anti-Rescue, but she's only lv. 7

      why dont u do wat i do and use luke cage for defense that way u can easily get elektra and then on the last few days of the tournament push ur self high

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    • SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:

      why dont u do wat i do and use luke cage for defense that way u can easily get elektra and then on the last few days of the tournament push ur self high

      hehehe... for defense I'm running Luke Cage and level 3 Spideer-Woman, along with an agent with 4 needle guns and the first generalist armor with no iso-8. Fights the last two seasons have been pretty easy. I stop doing it with like 5-10 days left in the season.

      I'm everyone's nightmare team... (jk)

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    • For defense, I run WC Phoenix/Rescue/Bruiser w/(The Knight, sorcerous scepter, SofON, Maggia Triggerman) which apparently is cheap but it works. I haven't lost a battle yet (out of 30) on offense because my team is an anti-rescue/anti-wc phoenix team. 

      I did play someone who had Elektra leveled already and she is nasty. Luckily the player wasn't too creative with his weapon choices (the exception being Kuzuri).

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    • NINJAelectricsword wrote:
      SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:

      why dont u do wat i do and use luke cage for defense that way u can easily get elektra and then on the last few days of the tournament push ur self high

      hehehe... for defense I'm running Luke Cage and level 3 Spideer-Woman, along with an agent with 4 needle guns and the first generalist armor with no iso-8. Fights the last two seasons have been pretty easy. I stop doing it with like 5-10 days left in the season.

      I'm everyone's nightmare team... (jk)

      no u arent i have lvl 3 luke cage un isoed and lvl 4 iron fist un isoed with a generalist armor the weakest one with no iso with 3 digital spotters and one po4

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    • I must be missing something... why run low-level Luke Cage and other heroes on defense?

      And how does that help you "easily get elektra"?

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    • By fielding a rubbish defensive team your ranking will drop overnight and then your first 5 fights of the day will be against lower tier players meaning you SHOULD win the fights easily to give you your 5 free lockboxes and roulette spin

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    • Isn't that kinda risky, though? Don't you run the risk of ranking really low? Or are those players just worried about the lockboxes/Elektra and nothing else?

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    • It's only done by the weaklings afraid of fights against the many people better then them, even if they could do well if they tried, their nature prevents them from doing so.

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    • @Regulus22

      Hahaha, lmao!! ;)

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    • It's not a strategy I've ever used myself, I do badly enough AFK without helping my opponents lol. So far i've managed my 5 LBs a day with maybe 2 or 3 attacking losses in total

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      Isn't that kinda risky, though? Don't you run the risk of ranking really low? Or are those players just worried about the lockboxes/Elektra and nothing else?

      Those players don´t care too much about rankings. IMO it`s kinda cheating, but it`s a free world.

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    • @Regulus22 i know a friend who does the same thing and got ada last 4 seasons

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    • @SYLVESTRO1299: Seriously? I would think it'd hurt you.

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    • Regulus22 wrote:
      It's only done by the weaklings afraid of fights against the many people better then them, even if they could do well if they tried, their nature prevents them from doing so.

      seriously? do you really have to attack people like that? I just do that so I don't have to spend two flipping hours every day fighting in PvP when I have to do be doing homework. I can't dedicate my life to pvp, that doesn't mean I'm a weakling or I'm afraid of fights.

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    • ninja im with u i use to be like the one having more than 50 attacks a day but its hopeless if i got to higher leagues i would definetly be in silver the next day with a rating of 800 or less

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    • Well, I'm in and out of Vibranium, and I'm averaging about 30-40 attacks a day. Kinda high volume, but I must be doing something right. ;)

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    • as long as u get to keep that rating at the last day

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    • NINJAelectricsword wrote:

      Regulus22 wrote:
      It's only done by the weaklings afraid of fights against the many people better then them, even if they could do well if they tried, their nature prevents them from doing so.

      seriously? do you really have to attack people like that? I just do that so I don't have to spend two flipping hours every day fighting in PvP when I have to do be doing homework. I can't dedicate my life to pvp, that doesn't mean I'm a weakling or I'm afraid of fights.

      2 things: 1. I run high speed techniques, One or two rounds and the match is won. So, a match that takes ample time is one where you're struggling IMO. It's why I find characters like Omega Sentinel to be useless, they take too long to be effective for my intents, ie. Not spending hours on PVP.

      2. The only reason where being at a lower rating could help hasten fights is if you can beat the lower ranked people quicker then you can the moderately ranked (since regular AFK will take you out of the high ranged automatically). So, you're too weak to win against the moderate people as easily as you can the low ranked.

      I've got jack all armory or hero bonus, haven't actually seen anyone with bonuses lower then me, and I don't play the volume to win Adamantium or anything, it's not as though I am a truly strong player, but I'm tactful, so moderate fights are easy IMO, especially with such a stable meta. And, I'm a meritocrat, and at the bottom of the barrel myself, so people that can't do at least that or try to improve, get nada from me.

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    • To each his own. If ninja thinks running a weak afk allows him to perform easier in offense then good for him, theoretically it should be easier. If Regulus gets by facing higher calibre opponents and still manages to win, then good for you. There is no right or wrong way to play pvp. It only matters if you care where you stand at the end of the season, and the means you use to achieve it.

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    • @Regulus22:

      Might I ask, what is your Armory/Hero Bounus?

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      Well, I'm in and out of Vibranium, and I'm averaging about 30-40 attacks a day. Kinda high volume, but I must be doing something right. ;)

      I use to play that way but now, within in the first 2 weeks, I play a bunch of games until I hit 1800. After that, the competition is so sparse that AFKing only knocks you back around 75 points, which is easily made up in 5-7 battles a day.

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    • FinalFantasy85 wrote:
      By fielding a rubbish defensive team your ranking will drop overnight and then your first 5 fights of the day will be against lower tier players meaning you SHOULD win the fights easily to give you your 5 free lockboxes and roulette spin


      A silver lining to the dark cloud of PVP frustration...

      • goes to put his crappiest heroes on Defence*
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    • @Tessarlight:

      Tell me how it goes. I may try it myself. ;)

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    • bout 80/70K for Armory, Heroes, I only have around half my heroes at 9. I'm at level ~225 though, meaning that even in the low rungs of silver, everyone has mostly L10s, L12s of all hero, and an armory bonus at least 10K ahead on each, 20K when I'm in Gold-Diamond Ranges where I float, since I missed a season worth of PVP item roulettes.

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    • Rescue and Phoenix

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    • phoenix has been much less of an issue since they modified the brute recently . many people complained when they took away the damage overtime it did but i still love it because of despair , it is a phenomenal counter to phoenix's annoying resurection .

      WC phoenix being off my mightmare opposing team , that still leaves the association rescue/magneto . as far as i am concerned , rescue is a plague no matter who she is associated with , but with magneto , my hatred for rescue rises yet another level .

      with cyclops rework recently , he has become very annoying indeed as he always seems to have too many extra turns . while i find hawkeye or quicksilver fairly annoying at times ... cyclops is like that , but much , much more powerful .

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    • Digifiend wrote:
      Cyclops. His refactor means that all three opponents usually have a counter attack up... meaning that it would be fatal to use Iron Patriot's 21 Gun Salute! :(

      SOA works fine.. Inf will kim him..

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    • Cazrael wrote:
      Digifiend wrote:
      Cyclops. His refactor means that all three opponents usually have a counter attack up... meaning that it would be fatal to use Iron Patriot's 21 Gun Salute! :(
      SOA works fine.. Inf will kim him..

      Not really I've been using P5 Cyke in my PVP attack team along with P5 Emma (both Tact) he can shut down Inf's with his L9 as it causes Incapacitation also his L2 also shuts down Inf >.>

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    • Rescue and OS. There was once I was using Wonderman and the oppossing had OS. She started by using L6 and then L9 Wonderman. She Epic Overkilled him. I hate her :(

      Our armory and heroes' bonuses were more less the same.

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    • Strega13 wrote:
      phoenix has been much less of an issue since they modified the brute recently . many people complained when they took away the damage overtime it did but i still love it because of despair , it is a phenomenal counter to phoenix's annoying resurection .

      WC phoenix being off my mightmare opposing team , that still leaves the association rescue/magneto . as far as i am concerned , rescue is a plague no matter who she is associated with , but with magneto , my hatred for rescue rises yet another level .

      with cyclops rework recently , he has become very annoying indeed as he always seems to have too many extra turns . while i find hawkeye or quicksilver fairly annoying at times ... cyclops is like that , but much , much more powerful .


      Dude speak for ur self. I don't have the Brute and her Revive effect is immune to SoA. I have to find another way around it and that usually depends on the turn order.


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    • Regulus22 wrote:
      It's only done by the weaklings afraid of fights against the many people better then them, even if they could do well if they tried, their nature prevents them from doing so.

      I agree with u on that. Alot of them are Nerf Whiners

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    • SilverScale777 wrote:
      Cazrael wrote:
      Digifiend wrote:
      Cyclops. His refactor means that all three opponents usually have a counter attack up... meaning that it would be fatal to use Iron Patriot's 21 Gun Salute! :(
      SOA works fine.. Inf will kim him..
      Not really I've been using P5 Cyke in my PVP attack team along with P5 Emma (both Tact) he can shut down Inf's with his L9 as it causes Incapacitation also his L2 also shuts down Inf >.>

      works for me which im using WCP Inf sometimes wolverine Inf & NC. :)

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    • P5 Phoenix, OS, Rescue & IP are my PVP refresh my game button..

       Phoenix Potential: Fires of Truth obliterate may phase tank agent with my deadly assasins!

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    • Just ran into a Havok/Wolvie team... probably won't see it again for a while, but I bet it gives me "nightmares", so...

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    • I think Cyke's passive procs way too much, but honestly havn't been seeing a lot of him nor IP. I'm using OS and P5 Emma on the offensive, very versatile and the key is that they have a lot of moves that keeps them in game. My previous setup, Emma/Widow made each of them play to much of a specific role. OS pretty much takes care of Rescue, Emma takes care of the others. Only problem is when Rescue and Phoenix are together, its a bit of a pain.

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      @Tessarlight:

      Tell me how it goes. I may try it myself. ;)


      I was kind of joking about that. But, I think I'll do it -- just to see. 20 days to go and 3 covers to go. I might as well try... I've never received a lockbox hero before.

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    • I have seen Rescue a lot in PVP lately, and my nightmare switch to Black Knight + Rescue ( i use magicians ).

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    • I'm currently running Kitty Pryde (alt costume) or Psylocke (depends on my mood), Scrapper agent and Omega Sentinel.  I've had very few problems.  Phoenix, Emma, even Omega Sentinel all are beatable.  Even Rescue and Cyclops haven't been too bad depending on who they're paired up with. Phoenix & OS are tough, but I've beaten them both times I came up against them. 

      But the one problem I've faced twice now that absolutely shredded me both times?  Wolverine (brown suit) & Rescue.  Between all Rescue's many known counters, and Wolverine's 1000 attacks per round I lasted exactly two rounds both times.  Ugh. 

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    • Just fought a guy with Iron Patriot, Modern Thor & Bruiser agent with the Restored Lewis Machine Gun (the one with Shell Shocked). He had better hero and armory bonus but I got half-lucky with the turn order, survived the onslaught & (barely) kicked his butt. If his agent didn't have Marked for Revenge already, my Widow would have gotten KO'd and the match would have ended a draw.

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    • Yeah I hate that gun lol.  Between that and IP's radiation, you pretty much have no choice but to use Scroll to shut it down.  Which means you're at the mercy of any new status effects for the next two rounds. 

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    • Same. I hate it so much that I've decided to start farming for it; several dozen runs of 2.1.2 later, I'm over 100 CP richer but still no gun :/

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    • I was nearly scared to death by a world war hulk, Modern Armor thor and the rival Agent holding Mirror image weapon. Hulk sent my Wolverine packing and Thor gutted my Cyclops in the very first round. All I was left with was my agent thinking about why he was invited for the fight in the very first place.

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    • So... X-Men vs Avengers, and the Avengers won!! (Sorry, couldn't help myself!!)

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    • My new most hated team is P5 Cyclops and WW Hulk because you have to wait five minutes every time you hit them (morale boost and war frenzy). It might not be a team to fear, but I almost lost because I wanted to quit the game.

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    • Hahaha, yeah, I've run into teams like that. They may not even be good, they just put you to sleep with their buffing. ;)

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    • sometime i hate QuickSh%t

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    • Everything? Is everything a fair answer? :/ Tbf,I think I'm just gonna accept I'm terrible at PvP,and give up. It's frustrating as hell,knowing that there are solutions,and I'm just not seeing them. My fault,no-one elses.

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    • I'm with you. I might start a thread about how Angel is unfair because he's a large visual distraction. I win about 75% offensively, and about 10% defensively.

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    • To lighten the mode. I call this, "The Awkward Moment You Bring a Scrapper to an All Bruiser Party" (link to screenshot)


      Screenshot of Cyclops one shotted by Juggs

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    • ...except that he's a Tactician. And you used imageshack. Eww...

      Jk, good capture of Cyke getting his head knocked back, though... always a pretty sight!!

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      ...except that he's a Tactician. And you used imageshack. Eww...

      Jk, good capture of Cyke getting his head knocked back, though... always a pretty sight!!

       


      QS just got finished buffing Juggs with a vortex lariat. When I face a scrapper, I always save him for last. Here is a screenshot that failed to capture the killshot.

      I'm the Juggernaut!!!   (Quicksilver didn't survive that one)

      I am taking suggestions for a good image site. I am new to the wiki scene.

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    • Use Lightshot. You can either use it as a standalone program, or if you use Google Chome, there's an extension as well.

      A lot of ppl here use it. I can't remember who turned me on to it, but it's a lifesaver!! ;)

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    • Update on new nightmare team

      Agents with 2+ different types of scrolls with rescue and wolverine.

      I simply cannot build my team for enough bufffs/debuffs to increase damage in this kind of situation.

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    • Iron Pepsi and Rescue

      P5 Cyclops and practically any alt hero

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    • @PARADOX0 for wolverine use Hercules with WCP inf for Rescue plus Astral agent equip with any protect counter gear...

      this works for me...goodluck! :)

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      Hahaha, yeah, I've run into teams like that. They may not even be good, they just put you to sleep with their buffing. ;)

      Same here! 

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    • Update on my nightmare team: I started to run Cyclops and if he starts the round he gives combat expertise to all party members. Omega sentinel will fire plasma torch and ALL my team (Hellsrtom, Cyclops and inf. Agent) counterattack. and then she does it again! 

      OS finds herself in a suicidical situation so the next round is almost sure the is gone. If she starts the round... that´s another story: She will sometimes hit my agent 4 times and kill him in the first round. 

      Versus Rescue, the Custom Dingo and Hellstrom's Petit Mort are a good combination against her freakin´reconstruction matrix.

      I think we all are certain in one thing: if the opposite team gets to start the fight, it will be difficult. but if they ALL get turns before you... you are pretty much done for, most of the time.

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    • NINJAelectricsword wrote:
      Tessarlight wrote:

      Giving up and refreshing is an automatic loss. Better to stick it out on the off hand chance you'll win.

      yeah but some people might give up. I normally don't give up on fights, I think the last time I gave up on a fight was when I came up against Rescue and Wolfie and they wouldn't die and there was like less than 15 minutes left in the season and the fight was going way too long and I thought that I might be able to quickly win enough other fights to overwrite my suicide loss. Then everyone got Adamantium anyway. :P

      It doesnt make sense to engage in a PvP match for more than 30 minutes, especially on d-day... So stoked that PD left the Adamantium gate open last tourney though...

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    • Last night I fought a guy with Scroll of Oziroch, Scroll of Ocirebi Nomaj, Signpost & Hotshots..P5 Collosus & Rescue.. 

      This Guy is Immortal, unlimited life Regeneration & Debuffing. geezzzzzz Im Stunned!

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    • Cazrael wrote:
      Last night I fought a guy with Scroll of Oziroch, Scroll of Ocirebi Nomaj, Signpost & Hotshots..P5 Collosus & Rescue.. 

      This Guy is Immortal, unlimited life Regeneration & Debuffing. geezzzzzz Im Stun!

      I usually don't cry for nerfing characters... but I would like at least they limit the shields that rescue gets every turn. 

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    • I will save some gold for this scrolls.. I dont have problem with Rescue & Cyke anymore. since im using WCP inf & Agent Inf with lots of counter & follow up attack... My team is build to kill any pwerful Tac...but this Scroll are awesome...

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    • Rescue, Blue Quicksilver, and a Digital Decoy. -_-

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    • Digital decoy's no problem for me because i can use the scrob of angolob. For those who didn't get it, keep playing incursions until you do, it's totally worth it (except for that stinkin' 3 round recharge time). I don't mind seeing Omega Sentinel either, because i use blaster-Havok-shatterstar team (probably not a good team, but what the heck). Omega Sentinel wastes one round changing her class (exhausted by Havok) and then i can one-shot-KO her. The one i REALLY hate mist is white phoenix with Rescue. It's horrible! White phoenix can't die, and then with her Phoenix Fire she recharges her death and rebirth. SH*T!!! There is no way to kill them at all! Rescue keeps healing, Phoenix rebirths. DOUBLE SH*T!!!!!

      Rescue should seriously be debuffed (a bit off topic but i can't resist, she is soooo annoying). I don't mind the status reset (only fair that some heroes get scrob oif angolob) but the reconstruction matrix is too strong and doesn't have to be recharged much. Besides, she should have low attack, but last time i saw her she took almost half my agent's health. WTF?!?!?!

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    • Rescue me from Rescue!!

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    • Bryan Kwok wrote:
      Digital decoy's no problem for me because i can use the scrob of angolob. For those who didn't get it, keep playing incursions until you do, it's totally worth it (except for that stinkin' 3 round recharge time). I don't mind seeing Omega Sentinel either, because i use blaster-Havok-shatterstar team (probably not a good team, but what the heck). Omega Sentinel wastes one round changing her class (exhausted by Havok) and then i can one-shot-KO her. The one i REALLY hate mist is white phoenix with Rescue. It's horrible! White phoenix can't die, and then with her Phoenix Fire she recharges her death and rebirth. SH*T!!! There is no way to kill them at all! Rescue keeps healing, Phoenix rebirths. DOUBLE SH*T!!!!!

      Rescue should seriously be debuffed (a bit off topic but i can't resist, she is soooo annoying). I don't mind the status reset (only fair that some heroes get scrob oif angolob) but the reconstruction matrix is too strong and doesn't have to be recharged much. Besides, she should have low attack, but last time i saw her she took almost half my agent's health. WTF?!?!?!

      WCP is no threat with Hellstrom's Pertite Mort, I hit her until she is low on health and apply it. It will poison her AND will prevent her from resurrecting. and since it`s stealthy, no pesky protectors will get in your way. Any item that applies despair is good too. Good luck!

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    • also rescues moves dont cost half as much as quicksilvers moves atleast a higher stamina consumption (BTW how does rescue fight with her armor if her circuits are fried???)

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    • SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:
      also rescues moves dont cost half as much as quicksilvers moves atleast a higher stamina consumption (BTW how does rescue fight with her armor if her circuits are fried???)

      I do not know, man...

      Normally, I agree with those that say stop asking for nerfs cuz they ruin a good thing, but in this case... Rescue is just waaay too OP. She's due for a nerf, and I'm sure she'll get one, but not before this PVP season is over lolz (sigh)

      On the plus side... looks like Ares may just be "the Rescue-killer we've been looking for." (Say it with Obi-Wan's voice. It's cooler.)

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:
      also rescues moves dont cost half as much as quicksilvers moves atleast a higher stamina consumption (BTW how does rescue fight with her armor if her circuits are fried???)
      I do not know, man...

      Normally, I agree with those that say stop asking for nerfs cuz they ruin a good thing, but in this case... Rescue is just waaay too OP. She's due for a nerf, and I'm sure she'll get one, but not before this PVP season is over lolz (sigh)

      On the plus side... looks like Ares may just be "the Rescue-killer we've been looking for." (Say it with Obi-Wan's voice. It's cooler.)

      just like thundra daimon satana nightcrawler magneto and every other high damage dealing hero

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    • I wouldn't go that far. I manage to handle all of those quite well, actually. But Rescue... pair her with any other healer - Phoenix, Wolvie, Valkyrie, or X-23 - and it's "game over, man.. game over!!" Absolutely impossible to beat.

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      I wouldn't go that far. I manage to handle all of those quite well, actually. But Rescue... pair her with any other healer - Phoenix, Wolvie, Valkyrie, or X-23 - and it's "game over, man.. game over!!" Absolutely impossible to beat.

      ahemm despair from daimon

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    • In the last two days, I've seen Rescue and Angel twice, Angel and Wolverine three times, Rescue and Wolverine twice, and just now, Wolverine and X-23.

      That last game I was ripped to shreds within 2 rounds. 

      It wasn't pretty... losing 1000+ to bleeding.


      And they said the Lewis was overpowered. *rolls eyes*

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    • I don't think she's due for a nerf. With the emergence of Despair I see her less. She barely does anything now with her nerf how much more with another one?

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    • SilverScale777 wrote:
      I don't think she's due for a nerf. With the emergence of Despair I see her less. She barely does anything now with her nerf how much more with another one?

      its just that she is hugeely annoying with many pvp strategies and once u get a anti rescue strategy emma and cyk keep coming in ur meta rescue might not be a vital threat in my meta she is meh unless she one hit kills my agent

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    • Being hugely annoying doesn't necessarily mean we should ask to nerf a certain character. I find Wolvie, WC Nix and OS more hugely annoying than Rescue but I'm not gonna go out an complain about it though.IMHO though she doesn't need a nerf she does what she does best: Defense and support >.>. Though I wanna ask how that Rescue OHKO your agent @@

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    • SilverScale777 wrote:
      Being hugely annoying doesn't necessarily mean we should ask to nerf a certain character. I find Wolvie, WC Nix and OS more hugely annoying than Rescue but I'm not gonna go out an complain about it though.IMHO though she doesn't need a nerf she does what she does best: Defense and support >.>. Though I wanna ask how that Rescue OHKO your agent @@

      satana + rescue need i say more

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    • SYLVESTRO1299 wrote:
      SilverScale777 wrote:
      Being hugely annoying doesn't necessarily mean we should ask to nerf a certain character. I find Wolvie, WC Nix and OS more hugely annoying than Rescue but I'm not gonna go out an complain about it though.IMHO though she doesn't need a nerf she does what she does best: Defense and support >.>. Though I wanna ask how that Rescue OHKO your agent @@
      satana + rescue need i say more

      oh wait rescue didnt one hit kill my agent my bad but there were certain occasion that i played against ada teams in practice in which rescue one hit killed my agent

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    • ColemanR1969 wrote:
      Kinda suprised no one has mentioned Shadow Cat Kitty Pride, Mockingbird or P5 Emma Frost. KP can kill you with one counter, Mockingbird can litterly wipe out your whole team in one turn if you have infiltraters or blasters and EF is crazy hard to kill with her Diamond body passive and her cosmic power healing ability. I hate to see any of these ladies coming!

      Long time ago this chicks are solid in pvp until Rescue came around with Omega Seninel & Jean grey...I used to hate MockingBird but with digital decoy & bleeders are everywhere.... she's now out in the spot light.

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    • AnnabellRice wrote:
      Rescue, Blue Quicksilver, and a Digital Decoy. -_-

      Digital decoy is useless againts item or hero that has multiple hits. Always have a strong Bruiser againts QS...and u figure it out againts Rescue :)

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    • Bruisers don't do anything against Gerneralist QS. Plus, with how high I've got his evasion, They almost always miss with high-damage attacks.

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    • Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:
       
      WCP is no threat with Hellstrom's Pertite Mort, I hit her until she is low on health and apply it. It will poison her AND will prevent her from resurrecting. and since it`s stealthy, no pesky protectors will get in your way. Any item that applies despair is good too. Good luck!

      Thanks man, that's really helpful. Sadly, i don't have hellstrom. Maybe i'll get him later, or use scrapper angel. Whatever the case, thanks for your advice

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      @Tessarlight:

      Tell me how it goes. I may try it myself. ;)


      I tried it last night and it failed horribly. As in... it DIDN'T drop my PVP score... it made it better!! (WTF?)

      http://prntscr.com/1ob0od

      current team - scrapper (4iso slot) agent with quicksilver (level 4) and Nightcrawler (l7)

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    • Correction - it was L4 daredevil and L4 QS

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    • My new nightmare opponent - whichever team I'm fighting at the moment. I know that there's not matching algorithm that looks at your characters and changes the Meta, but it is sure starting to feel that way.

      I go in with QS and BW tac, I get Rescuse 20 matches in a row. I switch QS to Nightcrawler, all I see is Phoenix and OS, with tank scrapper agents. My win percentage is below 75% for attacks now, and defense is holding steady at around 10%.

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    • Actually, bro, I DO think there is a matching algorithm that looks at your characters and changes the Meta.

      Aegis blaster Agent + Dainmon Hellstrom = 2-3 tacticians in opponent team

      Changed Aegis for Infiltrator trenchcoat: Scrapper Wolverine and Omega sentinel.

      ]Stalker + Mark 3 power cell: My agent start last od the 6 for 4 fights and counting.

      And Rescue in every fight.

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    • Skeetabyte wrote:
      Iron Pepsi and Rescue

      P5 Cyclops and practically any alt hero

      so you hate modern strange and FF Human Torch;because those are easy to kill

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    • Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:
      Actually, bro, I DO think there is a matching algorithm that looks at your characters and changes the Meta.

      Aegis blaster Agent + Dainmon Hellstrom = 2-3 tacticians in opponent team

      Changed Aegis for Infiltrator trenchcoat: Scrapper Wolverine and Omega sentinel.

      ]Stalker + Mark 3 power cell: My agent start last od the 6 for 4 fights and counting.

      And Rescue in every fight.

      If that were true, I should never face Inf WC Phoenix instead of her being half of my matches, as I'm running Scrapper BSQS, OS, and Generalist Agent. There have been plenty of posts on the wiki from people that know a lot more about the internal workings of the game and have tracked match-up statistics that should adequately prove that the matching algorithm does not factor in your offensive team members classes.

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    • Is it only me that face players with 100K+ PVP armory bonus in EVERY battle? those have 30+ utility belts and at least 2 scrolls ( I face one with ocirebi nomaj, angolob and rescue's status reset ). So annoying.

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    • How about squirrel girl? does she look like a good PVP guy? cuz i'll be getting her really soon

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    • I mean, will she be able to kill rescue? i'm not really sure who to team her up with, but every time there is a hero i really want to know if it's "the Rescue-killer we have all been looking for"

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    • Bashinthegreat wrote:
      Is it only me that face players with 100K+ PVP armory bonus in EVERY battle? those have 30+ utility belts and at least 2 scrolls ( I face one with ocirebi nomaj, angolob and rescue's status reset ). So annoying.


      I've faced about 3-4 players with 100K+ PVP

      I started this PVP at level 92, currently 97. Average PVP armouries I've been seeing are 50-55K, but sometimes I see a 100+.

      The most disturbing was when I faced an Agent "Sparrow" who had 116K off, 113K def, [29 utlitiy belts) and ONLY TWO of his heroes were level 11. All the others were between 3 and 6 with few 7s,8s and 9s.

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    • Tessarlight wrote:
      Bashinthegreat wrote:
      Is it only me that face players with 100K+ PVP armory bonus in EVERY battle? those have 30+ utility belts and at least 2 scrolls ( I face one with ocirebi nomaj, angolob and rescue's status reset ). So annoying.

      I've faced about 3-4 players with 100K+ PVP

      I started this PVP at level 92, currently 97. Average PVP armouries I've been seeing are 50-55K, but sometimes I see a 100+.

      The most disturbing was when I faced an Agent "Sparrow" who had 116K off, 113K def, [29 utlitiy belts) and ONLY TWO of his heroes were level 11. All the others were between 3 and 6 with few 7s,8s and 9s.

      "This is the story of Captain Jack Sparrow...." - Michael Bolton

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI6CfKcMhjY

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    • With much due respect Skeeta, Lonely Island hasn't been relevant in over 2 years now. They were pushing it hardcore by the time they released that nonsense.

      The only response I have to that inanity is this:http://bit.ly/17xaclQ

      Other than that... Keep calm and PVP on.

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    • LordOfDarkness78 wrote:
      Everything? Is everything a fair answer? :/ Tbf,I think I'm just gonna accept I'm terrible at PvP,and give up. It's frustrating as hell,knowing that there are solutions,and I'm just not seeing them. My fault,no-one elses.


      hey check out the PVP guide(i cant find it at the moment) it has some usefull info also check out your hereos iso, buy the cheap15-33 cp hereos lvl them up to help out. and pray you get a good turn order

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    • Tessarlight wrote:
      With much due respect Skeeta, Lonely Island hasn't been relevant in over 2 years now. They were pushing it hardcore by the time they released that nonsense.

      The only response I have to that inanity is this:http://bit.ly/17xaclQ

      Other than that... Keep calm and PVP on.

      Right back at ya!!

      http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/im-on-a-boat.gif

      Hahahaha

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    • WWII Captain America.. just.. love him.


      Bad words are replaced... Be warned..


      19:57, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

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    • JamesDayy wrote:
      WWII Captain America.. just.. love him. 

      How loquacious!!


      Bad words are replaced... Be warned..

      Docbobm (talk)

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    • hey if you stun a hero that just loves to protect ppl like WW2 CA Wolvie and Rescue then they wont protect for that one turn at least

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    • Jeffrey.a.shaw.5 wrote:
      hey if you stun a hero that just loves to protect ppl like WW2 CA Wolvie and Rescue then they wont protect for that one turn at least

      Use Ares. Stuns AND prevents resurrection and healing.

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    • i've said it before and i'll say it again. i HATE RESCUE! i can't effing stand her! 9.4 times out of ten, any team shes on, i loose.

      i'm already pretty fed up with pvp as it is. but that little *itch....

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    • nearly all of us feel that way... or at least a loooot of us do.

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    • Depends on who she's paired up with. I can take her down most times. But... paired with a strong Wolvie or Phoenix? Forget it. Lights out for moi.

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    • I can take her out even paired with phoenix BUT only with the correct turn order. Gambit has proven to be an excellent Rescue Killer. 

      Still hate her, anyway :)

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    • Ares would have been my favorite guy to bring in a PVP match save for the fact that Despair unlocks Nix's Pheonix Fire D8 I was literally dropping my jaw when she did that ;w;

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    • D8?

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    • Skeetabyte wrote: D8?

      nerdy sad face. turn your head right 90 degrees.

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    • It's an emoticon like the smiley face :)

      think of the D as the mouth and the 8 as the eyes

      D8

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    • Yeah, I get it guys. You just made me second-guess, though. I was like, "What move is THAT? What's Nix's D8 move?"

      (I hope y'all get a good laugh, lolz.. :P)

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    • yeah, i got a laugh outta that, i was wondering too

      anyway, is Gambit really a Rescue-killer? i though that was Squirrel Girl. Also, you should only use ares's despair when nix is low health, preferrably with another hero low health. if you kill nix and other with AOE, neither can be reborn

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    • Well when I first tried out Ares in an Incursion with a Pheonix and a Valk team so yeah pulled out Ares(note that this was before I found out that Despair would unlock her L9). So you could imagine my suprise as my team was wiped cleaned when ARes hit them with his L2 and then Nix did her L9 on her turn D:

      I learned not to do that again though. I wonder if this is a bug in the game or it was really intended. Either way imma just use SG instead hahahahaha

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    • @Bryan:

      Gambit can trash Rescue with 4 kinetic charges so he thows one card then goes Ragin' Cajun. The trick is to get him the 4 charges, but pays off.

      Rquirrel Girl applies exhaustion and flanked, AND removes that stupid protection move. AND gets her wide open so basicaly you can rip rescue with your team :)

      Daimon Hellstrom is also a Rescue Killer with Skittrimg Darkness and Le Petite mort, since it locks reconstruction Matrix. But I faced 2 tacts everytime he was on my team.

      Anyway, it all comes to turn order :(

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    • My nightmare is team

      UNKNOW

      checking my battle repord and i see -

      YOU LOSE TO UNKNOW

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    • Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:

      Gambit can trash Rescue with 4 kinetic charges so he thows one card then goes Ragin' Cajun. The trick is to get him the 4 charges, but pays off.

      Squirrel Girl applies exhaustion and flanked, AND removes that stupid protection move. AND gets her wide open so basicaly you can rip rescue with your team :)

      Daimon Hellstrom is also a Rescue Killer with Skittrimg Darkness and Le Petite mort, since it locks reconstruction Matrix. But I faced 2 tacts everytime he was on my team.

      I'm not that sure about Gambit. He can't counter anymore (that's how i see it. With rescue, all infiltraotrs are worthless in countering), and the damage he does with raging cajun, even with 4 charges and combat Reflexes on an exposed target, doesn't seem to deal much damge either. Thoguh, if you say so, i'm gonna try him. Is Wolverine infiltrator any good?

      Also, i'm gonna try squirrel girl soon (i finished all the tasks and am saving CP. 30 more...grrrrr). I'm quite sure she's good because i saw her moveset and it was great.

      As for daimon, he's a blaster so i'm less sure about him. Still, i do regret not getting him when i had the chance (i recruited shatterstar instead), as many of you are saying that he is a good hero. Maybe i'll get him when he comes out. I don't think i'll get rescue, though. With all the complaints, Playdom is sure to have her nerfed or release more anti-rescue heroes in the future

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    • Problem then of course is that they'll end up flooded with 'Rescue is useless' mail,and end up having to release a 'Anti-anti-Rescue' hero. And so it continues..... :)

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    • Bryan Kwok wrote:
      Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:

      Gambit can trash Rescue with 4 kinetic charges so he thows one card then goes Ragin' Cajun. The trick is to get him the 4 charges, but pays off.

      Squirrel Girl applies exhaustion and flanked, AND removes that stupid protection move. AND gets her wide open so basicaly you can rip rescue with your team :)

      Daimon Hellstrom is also a Rescue Killer with Skittrimg Darkness and Le Petite mort, since it locks reconstruction Matrix. But I faced 2 tacts everytime he was on my team.

      I'm not that sure about Gambit. He can't counter anymore (that's how i see it. With rescue, all infiltraotrs are worthless in countering), and the damage he does with raging cajun, even with 4 charges and combat Reflexes on an exposed target, doesn't seem to deal much damge either. Thoguh, if you say so, i'm gonna try him. Is Wolverine infiltrator any good?

      Also, i'm gonna try squirrel girl soon (i finished all the tasks and am saving CP. 30 more...grrrrr). I'm quite sure she's good because i saw her moveset and it was great.

      As for daimon, he's a blaster so i'm less sure about him. Still, i do regret not getting him when i had the chance (i recruited shatterstar instead), as many of you are saying that he is a good hero. Maybe i'll get him when he comes out. I don't think i'll get rescue, though. With all the complaints, Playdom is sure to have her nerfed or release more anti-rescue heroes in the future

      What`s your level? I am 168 and 4-charges, Raging Cajun on exposed target deals about 10k - 16k with a lvl9 Gambit, enough to destroy any character on my level. It´s  true that rescue Screws all counters. I compensate with Cyclops´ MOB to raise my stakes. Maybe it´s the way i Isoed Remy.


      Yea, try Doreen and enjoy her before the impending nerf :)


      Daimon is one of the best blasters out there, but i had to bench him because all opposing teams were 3 tacticians. I´m currently doing a Cyclops-Inf. agent- Squirrel Girl/Gambit team, switching them eventually when the AI starts to bombard me with the opposing class.

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    • I have seen people with Doreen, but not in a straight battle yet. I wonder why Omega+Rescue+SoA combo is so strong?

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    • I am about to quit a fight against Rescue+Aegis Blaster+Daimon Hellstrom. He keeps on doing Skittering Darkness and they don't do any damage against Lv 12 Blaster Mk 42 IM+Lv 12 GR+Tact. Agent but it's annoying when they keep on evading

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    • Bridgetterocks wrote:
      I am about to quit a fight against Rescue+Aegis Blaster+Daimon Hellstrom. He keeps on doing Skittering Darkness and they don't do any damage against Lv 12 Blaster Mk 42 IM+Lv 12 GR+Tact. Agent but it's annoying when they keep on evading

      Ok, after 20 mins, I finally could beat them. I had to use IM Lv 1 and GR Lv 1 cause they attack 4/2 times

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    • Im tellin yall this use black widow on those annyoing heros she has a stun ability target(crit cant miss for a whole round) and she can remove buffs. if u get her Grey Suit alt then she has the Inf counter ability to help ya out

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    • IM BEYOND FED UP WITH


      White Phoenix

      Rescue

      Agent with Scrolls combo


      garbage

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    • My biggest "problem child" would be any combo of Cap/Wolvie/Rescue/Colossus. All have some type of "protect" ability. Pair 'em together, and you're hitting wall.

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    • PS: So true, Jeffrey.a.shaw.5... three cheers for Grey Widow!

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    • Bashinthegreat wrote:
      I have seen people with Doreen, but not in a straight battle yet. I wonder why Omega+Rescue+SoA combo is so strong?

      Because they haven't got her leveled/socketed yet?

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    • Jeffrey.a.shaw.5 wrote:
      Im tellin yall this use black widow on those annyoing heros she has a stun ability target(crit cant miss for a whole round) and she can remove buffs. if u get her Grey Suit alt then she has the Inf counter ability to help ya out

      She a good defense teammate?

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    • I use BW for my off team. She takes out Rescue and Cyclops pretty nicely.

      For some reason though, she's always first to get attacked, which is a flaw in the game as far as I'm concerned. If in PVP you're on the Offensive, you should get the first move. You know... like in... ALMOST EVERY SPORT/GAME IN EXISTENCE.

      (except hockey, both sides are the offense in that game. ;) )

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    • It´s giving results in defense! +20 rating overnight the last day of PVP!


      I also gave the agent 3 curative reachs and a digital decoy. Since I was losing EVERY defensive fight, I thought "Well, what the hell.."

      Nice in offense, she screws rescue and Cyke, and those pesky protectors. 

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    • I think the first one to get attacked is the one that poses the highest threat. When i play with Gambit or Daimon Hellstrom (Both rescue Killers) they usually get plowed by the 3 opponents the first round. Lately SquirrelGirl had been targeted but she is one though nut to chew :)

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    • Seems to happen to me that way, too. And if I play Kitty, she gets it first.

      This is just an educated guess, but I think the AI's team collectively seems to go after whichever hero/agent that the AI feels is most powerful first, generally-speaking.

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    • I think thay way too. Next pvp i will get the alt Kitty and put her on defense. Let´s see what  happens.

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    • I used to play wit satana(sorry if i spelled it wrong) but i run into to many scrappers(wolvie) and they would just rape her before she could build up attack so i use a tact, scap, and a general suit for myself

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    • what's with the usage of 'rape' in this wiki lately? I'm sure there are other words to convey what you want to say. come on.

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    • Louie, agreed, and thank you for pointing it out. I am married to a survivor of sexual brutality, and tossing the words around like that can trigger someone big time. A lot of people use them without thinking, and have no intention of setting anyone off, but they really need to just not freaking do it. I heard one survivor give an example: it's like sitting in a room with a Holocaust survivor and repeatedly talking about how it was "torture" for you to go through something, or the "Nazis" at work were so difficult to work with, etc.

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    • Blackmax wrote: Louie, agreed, and thank you for pointing it out. I am married to a survivor of sexual brutality, and tossing the words around like that can trigger someone big time. A lot of people use them without thinking, and have no intention of setting anyone off, but they really need to just not freaking do it. I heard one survivor give an example: it's like sitting in a room with a Holocaust survivor and repeatedly talking about how it was "torture" for you to go through something, or the "Nazis" at work were so difficult to work with, etc.

      It is incredibly disrespectful. We're working on a solution to minimize that.

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    • Thanks, Olivia. Those who don't know better, ought to know better. For those who think this is "PC crap" and the like, it isn't. It's about not causing tremendous pain to people who have been brutalized.

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    • maybe a highlighted thread to provide a gentle reminder to users on inappropriate words. some of us may not even realise it when we say offensive things

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    • my current nightmare pvp team is cyke n rescue. the incapacitation bug (is it a bug? im not sure) really does drag the game out and rescue of course revels in these circumstances

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    • Definitely some people have no idea that they are using hurtful language. Just like people have to be educated out of using racial and ethnic slurs, they have to be educated out of using terms that relate to sexual violence. Nothing wrong with gentle reminders and the like, but there needs to be consequences for repeat offenders who ignore warnings, just like I would (or ought to) expect if I insisted on using racial slurs in my posts.

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    • I've been using Quicksilver and Wolverine this season, so Juggernaut, Hercules, Captain Britain and Thor are bad news.  However, that's just to be expected when you're using scrappers.  My agent is using the war axe, battery powered hand cannon, power of 4 and magnetic field generator.

      The real nightmare is Rescue.  Multiple turns, protecting, shields, healing, she can make a fight last a long, long time.  Paired with wolverine or a high-damage blaster or bruiser, she's lethal. Paired with another defensive character, she generally loses, but she can drag out a fight for what seems like hours.

      The equipment I hate most is the shepherd's staff.

      Cyclops is now useful in PvP, but I don't think he's all that overpowered, since he's all offense.  Besides, he's often paired with Wolverine and an agent with an enchanted crowbar, so that counter-attack ability is just redundant.

      Angel's flapping wings are just annoying.  I accidentally hit Angel when I'm trying to hit another character.

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    • I just found another reason Rescue is annoying: her Regeneration Matrix isn't negated by Despair. Gah.

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    • recently, I´ve met teams that may not be nightmarish per se, but awfully annoying: 3 characters with protection abilities, like Rescue, Wolverine and Agent with hoarfrost Mace. You just don`t know who will your attack will land on.

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    • TrickMayday wrote:
      I just found another reason Rescue is annoying: her Regeneration Matrix isn't negated by Despair. Gah.

      The shield part of regeneration matix isn't negated, the healing part should be.  It has been for me.

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    • Jmj211 wrote:
      TrickMayday wrote:
      I just found another reason Rescue is annoying: her Regeneration Matrix isn't negated by Despair. Gah.
      The shield part of regeneration matix isn't negated, the healing part should be.  It has been for me.

      It wasn't the last two times I tried.

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    • TrickMayday wrote:
      Jmj211 wrote:
      TrickMayday wrote:
      I just found another reason Rescue is annoying: her Regeneration Matrix isn't negated by Despair. Gah.
      The shield part of regeneration matix isn't negated, the healing part should be.  It has been for me.
      It wasn't the last two times I tried.

      This may actually be a bug. There was a point in time both effects were nullified.

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    • I use a bruiser agent with warbringer axe, Phoenix (not WC) and Wonder Man. The most common team I encounter is Rescue/OS. The trick to beating Rescue is the turn order. I don't put buffs on my team like using agent's Digital Decoy, Phoenix's Mind link on Wonder Man or Wonder Man's One Hit Wonder until Rescue's first turn is over, since after using Flyby attack, she almost always uses Status reset (which has a 3 round cooldown). Then after putting the above mentioned buffs, I wait until Wonder Man has 2xEnraged, 3xWar frenzy and some buffs from One Hit Wonder and just use Hollywood Hammer on Rescue. Even if she is shielded and/or Wonder Man is Magnetized, it does not really matter bcoz with my Wonder Man with the above mentioned buffs can easily KO her. Also, I recently acquired the Scroll of Angolob, which just makes fighting Resue/OS a little easier.

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    • LYL2013 wrote:
      Rescue and OS. There was once I was using Wonderman and the oppossing had OS. She started by using L6 and then L9 Wonderman. She Epic Overkilled him. I hate her :(

      Our armory and heroes' bonuses were more less the same.

      Try using WC Phoenix or normal Phoenix to resurrect Wonder Man.

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    • Rescue+Omega Sentinel and Rescue+Phoenix, Rescue+Angel. Damn those guys-_-

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    • Ralindra157 wrote:
      Rescue+Omega Sentinel and Rescue+Phoenix, Rescue+Angel. Damn those guys-_-

      Rescue + Angel gave you problems? Seriously? I mean, took me a while to finally kill 'em together with all those buffs, but neither one does any serious damage, lolz.

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    • Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:
      recently, I´ve met teams that may not be nightmarish per se, but awfully annoying: 3 characters with protection abilities, like Rescue, Wolverine and Agent with hoarfrost Mace. You just don`t know who will your attack will land on.

      yes , i truly hate facing these kind of teams where everybody is protecting , who will protect ( or sometimes not be protected ) seems too random . phenomenal at messing up a strategy .

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    • Strega13 wrote:
      Rabidsquirrel1 wrote:
      recently, I´ve met teams that may not be nightmarish per se, but awfully annoying: 3 characters with protection abilities, like Rescue, Wolverine and Agent with hoarfrost Mace. You just don`t know who will your attack will land on.
      yes , i truly hate facing these kind of teams where everybody is protecting , who will protect ( or sometimes not be protected ) seems too random . phenomenal at messing up a strategy .

      Yep, it sure does. Which is why I'm thinking of using a "protect" team on defense next PVP!! :P

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    • Rescue and Omega, because my strategy relies on debuffs, and those two just can scrap any condition on any character whenever they want.

      Agentwise, the worst weapon combo to face (and naturally, the one I keep finding) is Sinister Sceptre, Scroll of angolob, Hoarfrost Mace, Signpost. Explain to me how an INCORPOREAL agent blocked my shot? By all logic, that bullet should keep going right into Pepper's face. Started using a Phoenix Pinion just to deal with it, but that still doesn't help the rest of my team.

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    • im using sinister and hoarfrost next season with offensive heroes like elektra and SG if i get her in time

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